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I've seen SOME stuff, I'm not like a total recluse or anything, just
After I started college it all went out the window

But I'm fucking wildly fascinated to hear what you have to say about the psychology of Saw


for the record I only saw like 2.5 of them so if this requires a comprehensive understanding of the series you're gonna be talking to a tree basically

[lifetothefullest]

Aw, you started college after 2002?

Actually wait, now that I think about it, I have no idea what year it is in your world or how old you are, so I guess the year doesn't really matter that much.

Thanks, though it'll probably be disappointing since I haven't seen any of them in awhile. I just remember that the motivations made very little sense most of the time, and although it's not unusual for people to react strangely or with a lack of common sense in stressful situations, the prevalence and degree to which it occurs is contrived. So is the seeming complete lack of any attempt to learn from previous mistakes.

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Not all of us graduated at 11 years old, dude
I think I started in 04 actually so maybe I don't have a good excuse for that one
I was born in 1986, and it was 2018 when the ships touched down. After that it sort of got super easy to lose track of time. I think it was like
a year later, maybe 18 months before I showed up here

I feel like I got built up for something and immediately underwhelmed

[lifetothefullest]

Weird. Time's weird.

[Don't mind him, just... Realizing that again with concrete dates to compare to.]

I was born in 1985, but I'm younger than you by like three-ish years? Counting time in Hadriel.

I told you you'd be disappointed. If we can find the movies though we can drag a bunch of people in for a movie night and I'll do live commentary.

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On the condition that you promise to forget what a baby I am after the night is over. Horror movies spook the shit out of me. It is not flattering. Like, extremely not flattering. If I had any real pride I'd bail. Fortunately that also went out the window in like 2002.

[lifetothefullest]

We could keep it to just you and me and Nate; I don't know how Nate is with horror movies, actually.

[And now he wants to, but no need to embarrass Ian in front of any more people than that. Of course, he's assuming that by the time any of them would feel like watching 'vintage' movies things will probably have worked out more with Ian and Nate, and it's possible they won't have, but he has faith.]

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Oh man, I hope he's a screamer
I would be
So stoked


I'm guessing you're like completely unfazed by them
you're That Guy in movie theaters that laughs at inappropriate times

[lifetothefullest]

I hope so, that'd be amazing.

Hey, I don't laugh, but yeah more or less. I mean I see real dead bodies every week at work; it's kind of hard to be too freaked out when I'm really aware of how most horror movies are not exactly realistic.

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I hope the body mass to pitch ratio is absurd

Yeah okay fair enough, I guess it's easy to be like
"That's a corn syrup concentrate" and "that dude's breathing"

[lifetothefullest]

It's got to be, right? That's like a rule.

Exactly, though I'll admit that sometimes something'll still get me. Usually has to be creepy in a way other than gore, though.

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What gets you? Like a
paranormal activity ghost thing or like the demon possession kind?

[lifetothefullest]

I'm sure this is a shocking answer, but if it's done well psychological horror super creeps me out.

Demons are boring and ghost stuff's hit or miss, though since you admitted you're a baby about horror I guess I should tell you that I cried near the end of the Japanese version of The Ring. Not because it was scary though, just super depressing.

[The struggle is real when it comes to empathy and movies.]

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I was actually gonna guess that, but then I thought
horror psychology has to be even more fake than horror special effects and makeup

It's okay man
I won't judge you
I cry at the drop of a hat
I'm not ashamed to admit it
Titanic fucked me up

[lifetothefullest]

It's usually pretty bad, yeah, but every so often there's something that works.

Don't talk to me about Titanic, it's a problem every single time. Moulin Rouge too.

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It's the old couple, dude
When they lay down in bed

[lifetothefullest]

And the mom reading her kids a story.

And then of course the ending too, even though it's totally overdone and predictable and shouldn't actually work.

[But it does. It does.]

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Yeah honestly the ending didn't hit me all that hard.
Also that whole 'put them both on the door' argument is way overdone.

[lifetothefullest]

It's like people forget that they tried both getting on the door and it didn't work.

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The weight to buoyance man, it was just never gonna happen

[lifetothefullest]

People just really want there to have been an explanation that would put fault on either--or both--Rose or Jack, because then Jack's death is less upsetting; it can be rationalized as happening due to a mistake of Jack and Rose's own making.

This protects the viewer from having to face the idea that Jack's death wasn't preventable at all, and therefore allows them to maintain the illusion of a just world in which nothing like this could happen to them, because they're smarter and wouldn't make that mistake in that situation. Of course that's not how life works, but it's a world view that many still cling to because it's comforting despite the harm it can cause.

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You were supposed to assault me with Saw
I wasn't emotionally prepared

[lifetothefullest]

I felt bad for the lack of interesting commentary earlier.

Also I have stronger opinions about Titanic.

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I can tell
I think Leonardo DiCaprio would feel honored

[lifetothefullest]

Probably, though maybe less so when I analyze why, despite his own age increasing, his partners' stay within a very specific range.

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Is it because he's trapped in his golden years?